An Interview with Swinggcat
In November of 2003, Swinggcat surprised the seduction community with the release of his book “Real World Seduction.” Famous in the Speed Seduction community, respected by some of the best pick-up artists world wide, but relatively unknown to the general populous, Swinggcat quickly joined the ranks of gurus such as David DeAngelo with the amazing debut of his eBook which took a new look at the way Seduction and Attraction can be accomplished.
Now, in this exclusive interview, Swinggcat talks about his background, his development, his theories on seduction and attraction, and what he’s planning for the future.
This interview will be spread into several parts throughout the course of the week. It should be noted that this is a transcribed text of my conversation, and has been edited by me to make it read better.
PART I
Thundercat: Thanks for being with me today Swinggcat.
Swinggcat: Oh, no problem Thundercat. You want me to call you “Thunder” for short?
T: (Laughter) Only if I can call you “Swingg.” Alright man, why don’t you give us some background on who you are and how you got into this whole “seduction” thing.
S: When I was in JR high school, I was a total nerd—I was REALLY awkward and shy around girls. So, the summer going into 9th grade I gave myself a complete make over. My daily routine that summer was waking up, walking to the bookstore, reading self books on confidence and dating , perusing teeny bopper magazines for trendy styles, and picking up girls at the mall. This F-ing transformed me. By the time school started I was a new man. I was not the stud of my high school but I was getting laid (and I do have some great stories about high school—maybe I will share them in our next interview—I don’t know). In fact, by the end of eleventh grade I was voted biggest flirt…so I must have been moving in the right erection…I mean direction (laughs).
T: (Laughs) How did you get involved in this seduction community?
S: Around this time—well maybe a little after, I cant remember anymore—I saw this special on Fox 11 News about this creepy guy who was giving seminars to nerdy men on how to use hypnosis to get women into bed. They also interviewed this guy’s top student, Mark housewife banging Cuningham, a dumpy little man whose seduction niche was sleeping with married women. The girl I was watching it with commented, “This is some creepy shit!”, to which I concurred and then proceeded to look him up on the internet. I found his book and some newsletters he had written. In his book and newsletters he talked about using something called Patterns which were used to put women into trance states making it easier to bed them. The patterns seemed like excerpts taken out of some really cheesy romance book. They seemed like a shit pot full of work to memorize. I think at the time he offered a home study course for a few hundred dollars. But I was too cheap to splurge the cabbage. However, shortly after, I had an experience which made me think there was something to what this guy was teaching. I was out with a friend of mine, and a girl he really liked, and she started off liking him too. And I played this little visualization game with her where I had her imagine her ideal vacation, and her ideal romantic lover. And… long story short, by the end of it I was making out with her. So at this point I thought there was something to his stuff, but still did not have a big enough interest to fork over the cashola for his course.
T: Hm…So, what made you eventually cave in to buy his home study course?
S: Well this is an interesting story: When I was in high school I was living in L.A., so, while my sex life could have been better, I was still getting laid. But then in college my sex life plummeted. And then one night after not being laid in months I broke down, and ended up bedding a warpig I met at a frat party…we’re talking a good hundred and sixty pounder who had more facial hair than I currently would have if I abstained from shaving for a week. I think I will be forever traumatized by the vivid memory of waking up the next morning after shagging Miss. Hippo. I was half crushed by her enormous torso, and half depressed that I stooped to an all time low. At this moment I knew that I had to get this area of my life out of the way. I still remember leaving her sorority house (God…to think they let this creature in to a sorority), washing the stench of warpig off me, and out of desperation, ordering the stupid study course. But ultimately, what made me get the home study course was not that I thought there was great material in there, it was that there was a community of men who went out and would practice this stuff. Because most of the guys I knew in college, you know, very intellectual guys, kind-of balked and looked down upon the idea of going out and spending time seducing and picking up women, and I was quite excited to get into this community and meet these people. I bought the home study course, joined Ross’s list, and met up with some of the guys.
T: So what was it like meeting the guys?
I was really excited, I was expecting these really kind-of “GQ”-esque looking guys, you know, real “ladies men” – like, I remember I was meeting some of them at a coffee shop and I thought they’d be the life of the party, and I remember going up to some frat boys because that’s who I thought they were, saying “Oh, are you guys the brothers?” And they kind-of looked at me weird. And then I noticed some kind-of small, disheveled looking guys with receding hairlines and protruding guts in the corner of the coffee shop, and I just went up to them to ask them if they had seen any guys that looked like the “fun party guys.” And they’re like (in zombie voice) “Oh, you must be brother Swinggcat.”
You can visit Swinggcat's website, RealWorldSeduction
DatingTipsForMen publishes top dating, attraction, and seduction articles.
Saturday, October 30, 2004
Part 2: Interview With The Dating, Seduction, & Attraction Expert, Swinggcat
An Interview with Swinggcat
In November of 2003, Swinggcat surprised the seduction community with the release of his book “Real World Seduction.” Famous in the Speed Seduction community, respected by some of the best pick-up artists world wide, but relatively unknown to the general populous, Swinggcat quickly joined the ranks of gurus such as David DeAngelo with the amazing debut of his eBook which took a new look at the way Seduction and Attraction can be accomplished.
Now, in this exclusive interview, Swinggcat talks about his background, his development, his theories on seduction and attraction, and what he’s planning for the future.
This interview will be spread into several parts throughout the course of the week. It should be noted that this is a transcribed text of my conversation, and has been edited by me to make it read better.
PART II
T: You seem like a guy who was already pretty good with women before you even got into this stuff…am I right?
S: I was a guy who, you know, got laid. Not as much as I would have liked to have gotten laid or by the type of girls I would have liked to lay –
T: Well, none of us can get laid as much as we like.
S: Yes, unless you’re Gene Simmons or Dave Navarro
T: (Laughter) Or Style.
S: (Swinggcat looking all green-eyed) Ugh! I hate that bastard…he has a better ass than me! (Now revealing a smile)
T: Some would say you rely a lot on your looks as part of your skill.
S: Yes, exactly.
T: How do you respond to that?
S: Well, it depends on how you look at it. My looks – I was in college at the time, I went to college up north, San Francisco Bay area, and my looks got a lot of attention… from men.
T: (Laughter)
S: There was this one time that I was in LA, I think it was for Spring Break during college, and a buddy of mine took me to Skybar, and the whole night – no luck with women whatsoever. Just crashing and burning. It was before I got into this stuff… and there was this guy that came over and he complimented me on my shirt. You know, compliment intro.
T: Yeah.
S: Worked great. He invited me to this after-party, and I went to the after-party, and there are all these girls there. Of course, I struck out left and right. And at the end of the night, he said him and his buddy needed to talk to me for a second. They took me into this room, and basically said “Oh, you are so charming, and so hot, and we would love to hook up with you.” And at that moment, I realized, my looks… were a curse.
T: (Laughter)
S: Not a blessing!
T: I noticed you do get approached by guys a lot.
S: I do, I do, I do.
T: Guys, or really ugly bisexual women.
S: I know (laughs). Well, the Tranny’s love me. I guess because I’m cute, little, and cuddly.
T: But the truth is you don’t really need to be good looking to be good with women, even though it helps.
S: Well no…It is important to be good looking, but one does not have to be conventionally good looking.
T: Hmm…what do you mean?
S: Well, for example, most of the world’s top pick up artists are not exactly what the general female populace would call “conventionally good looking”. There is Mystery who is tall but has a long Pinocchioesque looking snout. Then there are guys like Style, Rick H., David D and myself, who look like little hobbits. Damn…I doubt if a woman saw a picture of us all together she would think we looked like shinning examples of genetic perfection. More likely she would think it was something like a group photo taken from a Lord of the Rings reunion party or a picture of the cast for an upcoming Adams family movie…I don’t know. But irrefutably, she would not mistaken the photo of us as being a page out of an Abercrombie catalogue.
T: So how can a man be good looking if he is not conventionally good looking?
S: The kind of good looking that I am talking about has more to do with being sexy. Let me ask you a question: Have you ever seen a picture of two women, one of which you found to be more attractive, but when you met them in person you found the other one to be more attractive?
T: Yes…interesting.
S: The reason for this is that a person’s body language, facial expressing, personality, and beliefs about themselves, dramatically affect how attractive others find them. Think of the body as a musical instrument. An amateur musician playing something on a really fancy musical instrument is still not going to sound as good as a professional musician playing something on a shitty instrument. Likewise, a guy who is not conventionally good looking who knows how to use his body, is going to be infinitely more attractive than a conventionally good looking guy who doesn’t know how to use his body. Its so funny, but when a guy who is not conventionally good looking knows how to use his body, facial expressions, and personality, women will talk about how physically attractive they find him. I have seen women say this about little tiny bald guys and big fat bastards…It is really hilarious to watch.
T: Yes…there is home for me!
You can visit Swinggcat's website, RealWorldSeduction
DatingTipsForMen publishes top dating, attraction, and seduction articles.
In November of 2003, Swinggcat surprised the seduction community with the release of his book “Real World Seduction.” Famous in the Speed Seduction community, respected by some of the best pick-up artists world wide, but relatively unknown to the general populous, Swinggcat quickly joined the ranks of gurus such as David DeAngelo with the amazing debut of his eBook which took a new look at the way Seduction and Attraction can be accomplished.
Now, in this exclusive interview, Swinggcat talks about his background, his development, his theories on seduction and attraction, and what he’s planning for the future.
This interview will be spread into several parts throughout the course of the week. It should be noted that this is a transcribed text of my conversation, and has been edited by me to make it read better.
PART II
T: You seem like a guy who was already pretty good with women before you even got into this stuff…am I right?
S: I was a guy who, you know, got laid. Not as much as I would have liked to have gotten laid or by the type of girls I would have liked to lay –
T: Well, none of us can get laid as much as we like.
S: Yes, unless you’re Gene Simmons or Dave Navarro
T: (Laughter) Or Style.
S: (Swinggcat looking all green-eyed) Ugh! I hate that bastard…he has a better ass than me! (Now revealing a smile)
T: Some would say you rely a lot on your looks as part of your skill.
S: Yes, exactly.
T: How do you respond to that?
S: Well, it depends on how you look at it. My looks – I was in college at the time, I went to college up north, San Francisco Bay area, and my looks got a lot of attention… from men.
T: (Laughter)
S: There was this one time that I was in LA, I think it was for Spring Break during college, and a buddy of mine took me to Skybar, and the whole night – no luck with women whatsoever. Just crashing and burning. It was before I got into this stuff… and there was this guy that came over and he complimented me on my shirt. You know, compliment intro.
T: Yeah.
S: Worked great. He invited me to this after-party, and I went to the after-party, and there are all these girls there. Of course, I struck out left and right. And at the end of the night, he said him and his buddy needed to talk to me for a second. They took me into this room, and basically said “Oh, you are so charming, and so hot, and we would love to hook up with you.” And at that moment, I realized, my looks… were a curse.
T: (Laughter)
S: Not a blessing!
T: I noticed you do get approached by guys a lot.
S: I do, I do, I do.
T: Guys, or really ugly bisexual women.
S: I know (laughs). Well, the Tranny’s love me. I guess because I’m cute, little, and cuddly.
T: But the truth is you don’t really need to be good looking to be good with women, even though it helps.
S: Well no…It is important to be good looking, but one does not have to be conventionally good looking.
T: Hmm…what do you mean?
S: Well, for example, most of the world’s top pick up artists are not exactly what the general female populace would call “conventionally good looking”. There is Mystery who is tall but has a long Pinocchioesque looking snout. Then there are guys like Style, Rick H., David D and myself, who look like little hobbits. Damn…I doubt if a woman saw a picture of us all together she would think we looked like shinning examples of genetic perfection. More likely she would think it was something like a group photo taken from a Lord of the Rings reunion party or a picture of the cast for an upcoming Adams family movie…I don’t know. But irrefutably, she would not mistaken the photo of us as being a page out of an Abercrombie catalogue.
T: So how can a man be good looking if he is not conventionally good looking?
S: The kind of good looking that I am talking about has more to do with being sexy. Let me ask you a question: Have you ever seen a picture of two women, one of which you found to be more attractive, but when you met them in person you found the other one to be more attractive?
T: Yes…interesting.
S: The reason for this is that a person’s body language, facial expressing, personality, and beliefs about themselves, dramatically affect how attractive others find them. Think of the body as a musical instrument. An amateur musician playing something on a really fancy musical instrument is still not going to sound as good as a professional musician playing something on a shitty instrument. Likewise, a guy who is not conventionally good looking who knows how to use his body, is going to be infinitely more attractive than a conventionally good looking guy who doesn’t know how to use his body. Its so funny, but when a guy who is not conventionally good looking knows how to use his body, facial expressions, and personality, women will talk about how physically attractive they find him. I have seen women say this about little tiny bald guys and big fat bastards…It is really hilarious to watch.
T: Yes…there is home for me!
You can visit Swinggcat's website, RealWorldSeduction
DatingTipsForMen publishes top dating, attraction, and seduction articles.
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