Part 3: Interview With The Dating, Seduction, & Attraction Expert, Swinggcat

An Interview with Swinggcat

In November of 2003, Swinggcat surprised the seduction community with the release of his book “Real World Seduction.” Famous in the Speed Seduction community, respected by some of the best pick-up artists world wide, but relatively unknown to the general populous, Swinggcat quickly joined the ranks of gurus such as David DeAngelo with the amazing debut of his eBook which took a new look at the way Seduction and Attraction can be accomplished.

Now, in this exclusive interview, Swinggcat talks about his background, his development, his theories on seduction and attraction, and what he’s planning for the future.

This interview will be spread into several parts throughout the course of the week. It should be noted that this is a transcribed text of my conversation, and has been edited by me to make it read better.

PART III

T: what are some of the things that guys can do with their body to make themselves more attractive?

S: In my book I get really in depth with this stuff. But something really basic that most guys have heard a thousand times, yet still needs to be reinforced is eye contact. This is huge. When first approaching or interacting with a woman, maintain strong eye contact. If you have eye contact with a woman and she does something making you feel uncomfortable, do not look away. When you do this it conveys to her that you are scared, you are reacting to her, she is more worthy than you, and that you are in her reality. If you get scared…and we all get scared at times, do something like curl your toe, I don’t know. But don’t look away. When you make her look away she is reacting to you, thus, she is in your reality. Having a strong gaze will convey to women that even the ugliest guy is the prize. When this is coupled with a warm confident smile, the affect it has on women is profound. I personally know a very ugly dude who has only mastered these two things…and women find him very attractive as a result. Some other basic stuff that will make even model men unattractive is slouched shoulders, and hands in the pockets. This conveys insecurity and lack of self worth. Learn to be comfortable in your own skin, stand tall, and take up space. Anyway, in my book I go really in depth into this and talk about some really subtle things you can do with your body language that will make women see you as being good looking, not in the conventional sense, but in the “sexy sense. This is the kind of good looking that matters. The conventional kind DOESNT REALLY MATTER.

T: great stuff

S: yea…and the other part of being attractive is finding a look that works for you. Wear clothes that look like they belong on your body. If you need to get help from some female friend, do it!—because this is huge.



T: Very true…I think the guy from fashionforfatguys.com make a similar point. To return to your journey after you got the home study course, I am wondering what your first big Suck-sex was?

S: (Laughs) So my first “suck-sex” with this stuff was, um, I’d studied and learned the “incredible connection” pattern, the “fascination” pattern, the “voodoo dildo,” and I think “love vs. attraction.” And I was at a friend of mine’s house, and there was this girl there, and I started running these patterns on her. She was totally intrigued by it. And my friend, he sort of knew what I was doing – some type of “pheromone hypnotist” thing you get on the internet, and he thought it was bullshit. But this girl was into it, she was really digging it. My friend tried cock block me, but she was into me and he couldn’t get anywhere, so he took off, and the girl and I end up going up to a room and… well, I had run out of my four patterns! So I just kept repeating them, over and over again! (laughs) And I was scared to make the move because, you know, I thought that if I didn’t have someone in a deep trance, I really couldn’t make a move. All I needed to do was lean over and grope her.

T: (Laughs)

S: So basically, what happened was, I kept running the patterns, finally made my move on her, ended up bedding her, and I thought “Wow! There’s something to this!” I told some of the guys that I’d met through the Seduction church…I mean “Community” and they were like “Wow, you’re the best we know at this. Because, to be honest with you, none of us have actually been able to get this stuff to work!”

T: (Laughter)

S: That’s fucked up man, don’t laugh…these guys were my idols, and it was really heart wrenching to realize that they actually stunk.

T: So what happened after that suck-sex?

S: And so that was a short-lived success, I kind-of, you know, after that didn’t have much success. And then a buddy of mine introduced me to some commercial live footage of guys using this stuff on women”

T: Oh! The Orion and Kamal videos.

S: Ah, ah, it was… priceless like Mastercard. Wow. Uh, so I studied the videos, I learned the handwriting spiel, and now I didn’t have to worry about walk-ups. I’d just walk up to girls and, you know, my opening line was “If I were to ask you for some of your handwriting, what might you say?” And I’d do the handwriting analysis thing, which is basically a way of doing a cold reading. I started doing the handwriting thing, and then I would kind-of segue into these hypnotic patterns, and attempt to hypnotize them.

I had some success, got number like a rock star, and laid some girls using this, but I slowly started realizing that something was terribly wrong. As soon as I would stop doing the handwriting analysis spiel, the women lost interest in me. If I didn’t lay them within the first half hour while doing the handwriting analysis, it was over. I started to realize I was basically a monkey doing tricks. I was basically setting it up so the woman was the prize, and I was this little monkey who was jumping through hoops, hoping she would accept me. And it wasn’t the worst thing in the world, it actually got me laid. I was probably getting laid less than I was before using this, still by warhogs, um, but I did lay some hot girls using it, I have some great stories. I thought that the answer to all my problems was learning even more material…If I could only keep the girl intrigued and liking me by learning even more patterns and routines I would be the master, I speculated.
However, in time I began to realize that not only did I not need more material, but in many cases not trying to FASCINATE them and not trying to get INCREDIBLE CONNECTIONS with them, and not trying to talk about LOVE OR ATTRACTION actually made them more attracted to me. In fact, it was like the less material I did the better I became. I started to realize that attracting women is not about doing things that make them judge you as attractive. When you try to get women to like, be fascinated, or connect with you, it defines your interaction with her as meaning that it is her who is the prize.

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